Is the US fertility rate really "collapsing," or are we just returning to normal? Should we have more babies to support Social Security and Medicare? Notre Dame economist Kasey Buckles explains why the data isn't what you think, and why - often - neither are the solutions.
In this episode of "It Turns Out," Kara Miller sits down with Buckles to break down why America’s birth rate hit a record low in 2025. While President Trump has considered $5,000 "baby bonuses," Buckles explains why these incentives rarely work.
Plus, could increasing political divisions between men and women actually slow family formation? And which segments of society are most likely to say they aren’t having the number of children they want?
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